Toronto Catholic Witness has obtained - through an unnamed source - an interview with Fr. Aidan McNutty (Secretariat of State) regarding a secret dossier that the Vatican has on Michael Voris.
Following the publication of Fr. Antonio Spadaro's article and follow-up interview, we contacted our source who obtained an interview conducted by a Polish journalist with the American born McNutty. This interview provides background information for Fr. Antonio Spadaro's statements that Michael Voris is an "integrist" and dangerous subversive. It also contains several shocking revelations that reveal the urgency behind Fr. Spadaro's essay.
The news agency in question is the Polish "Wolność" (Freedom). Translation by Barona from the original Polish test.
Wojtek Wysmiechowicz (WW): Thank-you father for agreeing to this interview.
Fr. Aidan McNutty (AM): It is a pleasure.
WW: Please correct me if I am wrong, but is there a dossier in the Vatican on Michael Voris of Church Militant?
AM: Absolutely yes. I have seen it and read it.
WW: How did you see it?
AM: It was shown to me in the Secretariat of State as I am an American priest and my hierarchy is very, very concerned with Voris.
WW: Why are they concerned?
AM: He has a growing following and even more importantly, is raising issues that we are trying to control.
WW: Such as?
AM: Financial misdeeds, priests violating celibacy etc.
WW: You mean priests stealing Church funds and engaging in homosexual activity?
WW: But is there not a clean-up going on in Rome, in the Vatican? Or, is this just media PR?
AM: Well, the facts speak for themselves.
WW: So how is Voris involved in all of this? Why has Fr. Spadaro - through the Pope's own official newspaper, and with the Secretariat of State's approval - openly attacked Voris?
AM: Well, it comes down to much more than Voris calling out errr, rash behaviour committed by the clergy. What some call "sin". The problem with Voris goes far beyond his crusade against what he believes are immoral priests or bishops.
WW: Why then the sudden move by Fr.Spadaro, under the auspices of the Secretariat of State?
AM: The Secretariat of State has a dossier- a secret file in fact - that Michael Voris was "elected" Pope in 2013 in a "conclave" held in Quebec City, in Canada after the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI.
WW: Really!? This is extraordinary! This is very serious!
AM: It is very serious. We have a man, Voris, who claims to be Pope and holds to a false ecclesiology. Fr. Spadaro's article and his subsequent interview with "America" outline in detail that Voris holds positions that are no longer held in the Church.
WW: This makes him a very serious threat to the Church?
AM: Very serious. This is a schismatic action, though not yet a formal schism. As a layman he cannot fall into formal schism until he is consecrated bishop. We have evidence to believe that Voris intends to be consecrated in the near future.
WW: Does Fr. Spadaro know this?
AM: Of course he does. It is known in the Pope's most inner circle that Michael Voris is seeking to establish a parallel church of the "pure". In effect, a Manichean church, as Fr. Spadaro has pointed out with great accuracy.
WW: Who else is connected with Voris? Has he appointed any other leaders in his imminent "parallel church"?
Are these two of the most dangerous men in the Catholic Church?
Yes, according to the Vatican
AM: Yes. After his "election" he appointed a Canadian blogger as head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. According to our dossier, Voris created this blogger a lay Cardinal. I understand there are plans to consecrate the blogger a bishop as well. Besides his Canadian right-hand man, Voris also has a number of other, powerful and evil henchmen in various countries round the world. They are being identified by the Secretariat of State and various national episcopal conferences.
WW: And the Secretariat of State's position? Whom has Voris selected?
AM: Voris intends to hold that himself as Pope.
WW: This is incredible. Does Voris have any support in the Vatican?
AM: We believe he may actually have support from a number of cardinals and bishops. These men we are identifying and eliminating from any influence. Most have already been neutralized. It will be one of them who would confect the illicit consecrations.
WW: So the purpose of Fr. Spadaro's article?
AM: The purpose is simple: to identify by far the greatest threat to the Catholic Church today. To unmask him and isolate him. This is the first step.
WW: And the second?
AM: Having exposed Voris as an heretic and promoter of out-dated theological propositions we can then more easily dissuade Catholics from following him, when he publicly declares that he is the Pope.
WW: Thank-you Fr. McNutty.
AM: Thank-you. It is important that Catholics in Poland be put on alert to the grave dangers posed by Voris to the Faith, the Church and therefore the life of the world.