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Thursday, 7 November 2013

The Chicago Tribune is lying about Pope Francis

"The teaching of the Church is clear, and I am a son of the Church" 
Pope Francis

Readers of this blog will have seen my recent post on "Bonfire Night"; replete with anti-Catholic hatred, concluded with the burning of the Pope in effigy. It comes down to "we will not have this man reign over us". The rejection of the Pope is ultimately the rejection of Jesus Christ. 

Damnable sodomites indulging in triumphalism in a "gay" bar
 But the enemies of Christ are not content with blackening the name of a long-dead Pope. They continue their campaign of hate; indeed, this is their ultimate focus point, on the reigning Supreme Pontiff. Far worse than a band of nominal protestants recalling an event from a few hundred years ago is the contemporary alliance between secular forces and nominal "Catholics" against the Church, the Pope, and natural law. For, even the protestants of old knew that sodomy was a sin. Now, it would seem, so-called "Catholics" believe that sodomy is a virtue. And so....


Not a "gay" old time for truth
Monstrous lies are being spread against Pope Francis. This morning the news provided me with a modern twist of the "Bonfire Night" hatred of Christ, His Church and His Vicar. It is being claimed by a number of so-called "Catholics", that the recent conversational interview with Fr. Antonio Sparado, motivated them to throw in with anti-human legislation, and vote in favour of sodomic "wedlock" (though how two sodomites can be joined together is another matter). Does anyone really trust and believe that paragon of journalistic "fairness", The Chicago Tribune, in this claim? Being fanatically in favour of damnable sodomy (to quote St. Peter Damian), the Tribune did not challenge these liars as to how they could twist the words of the Pope into motivating them to endorse the perversion of marriage. In fact, the Tribune outdid these moral perverts in claiming that the Pope positively influenced the decision in favour of sodomy. 

For these evil legislators, and the despicable Chicago Tribune, a question of eisegesis, not exegesis (though these fools would not know one Greek word from another). 

We can only hope that the local Ordinaries of these evil "Catholic" legislators will take appropriate measures, as foreseen by canon law. 

A further analysis of Pope Francis and his interview is carried by Chiesa: 


Antonio Spadaro, S.J., met three times with Pope Francis and skillfully wove the pope’s words into an integral whole. He makes two comments upon the experience that are not recorded in the fine English translation published by America, but can be found in the version printed in La Civiltà Cattolica.

In his introductory remarks Spadaro makes this observation: “Clearly Pope Francis is more used to conversation than to lecturing” (“abituato più alla conversazione che alla lezione”). And in his concluding reflections Spadaro opines: “In reality, ours has been more a conversation than an interview” (“in realtà una conversazione più che un’ intervista”) I think it important to recall these comments because placing the pope’s remarks in the genre of conversation may serve as a better guide for their ongoing interpretation. The conversation transpired between two believers, two fellow Jesuits, who share a commitment, vision and common language. 

However, it is being overheard by a world avid to detect any hint of change in church teaching, but that is often deaf to the deeper language of faith. Thus, we see the predictable fixation by the secular media upon the issues of abortion and gay marriage—the very subjects that they charge portions of the hierarchy with obsessing over. 

As many have already noted, Pope Francis does not dispute what has become settled magisterial teaching in this regard. “The teaching of the church,” he insists, “is clear; and I am a son of the church.” Significant, however, is his repositioning of these moral teachings in relation to the heart of the matter, which is the church’s proclamation of the good news that “Jesus Christ has saved you!” Though he does not use the term here, it seems evident that what Francis discerns to be the pressing need of our time is a new evangelization, a renewed proclamation of the love and mercy of God embodied and made available in Jesus Christ. 

N.B. The use of the term "sodomite" pertains to those who engage in a militant, homosexualist political agenda. It in no way refers to, or is meant to refer to those persons suffering from same-sex attraction, to whom such an attraction is a great cross to carry. 

15 comments:

Freyr said...

Where is the lie here? The cause of same sex marriage was clearly helped by quoting Pope Francis out of context with no reference at all to Catholic teaching. As for same sex marriage I give you Ed Peters...

"Women becoming priests and guys marrying other guys is not simply forbidden, it is impossible, no matter how dressed up everybody gets for the event and no matter how many laudatory news stories get written about it. In fact, guys marrying guys (or girls marrying girls) is even more impossible (if that’s possible) than women being ordained priests because the impossibility of ‘same sex marriage’ is rooted in natural law (c. 1055 § 1), and not simply in (albeit infallibly proclaimed) Church doctrine (which, yes, I know, might be rooted in natural law, but I don’t need to debate that now)."

They will come after you, persecute you, use civil law as a bludgeon against you, drag you before courts and spread all sorts of lies, distortions and calumnies against you. You will be misquoted, misrepresented and your very words will be used against you. Forgive them and pray for them for they know not what they do.

Freyr said...

Now that you have prayed and forgiven, go on over to GetReligion.com and look at how they handle a clear case of media bias.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/getreligion/2013/11/still-another-one-sided-same-sex-marriage-story/#more-113296

Lawrence and Susan Fox said...

If the pope endorsed same sex marriage, this would be a revolution of unprecedented proportions (which means he hasn't). It would mean that the nature of mankind itself has changed! The great evil of same sex marriage is that it distorts the very nature of man. No longer are we made in the image and likeness of God. Instead each man becomes a "donor" and each woman an "incubator." Because marriage carries with it the right to have children, and children cannot be had in a same sex marriage without doing violence to the nature of the family, violence to the very nature of how children are conceived, and it leaves children vulnerable in the case of gay adoption. No pope would ever support such a change. How bizarre that gays in Chicago cannot understand that. God bless you. Susan Fox www.christsfaithfulwitness.com

Freyr said...

We certainly do have a problem. We cannot tell the difference between the Chicago Tribune and the Baltimore Catechism. A newspaper presents the news in a factual and unbiased manner. The Chicago Tribune article is clearly biased so it fails as a newspaper. That the secular press is seriously biased on this issue is hardly news to anyone but I am at least grateful for GetReligion calling them to task for it. At least they get more hits than we do and someone in the newspaper business might actually read it. Here we are mostly preaching to the choir with emotion laden prose far more calculated to induce a catharsis than actually change anyone's mind or heart.

Freyr said...

If you are not interested in the conversion of the sinner, then what are you doing here? I happen to believe that it is possible to call a newspaper to task for biased reporting verging on advocacy or Catholics to task for ignorance whether willful or otherwise without descending into mudslinging emotional rants. I suggest you restrict yourself to the language used in the catechism and refrain from the use of language describing specific sexual acts. I find this offensive.

Freyr said...

By the way, you might be interested to know that the language you are using will not get past my porn filter.

Barona said...

this is just becoming silly...count me out...

Freyr said...

I don't care what your justification is. Defining people by the sexual acts they perform is just plain wrong. Stick to the language used in the catechism. That should be sufficient to discuss the issues. Anything more than that is an effort to shock and titillate and is wholly inappropriate.
This is not biblical language. It does not appear at all in the Douay Rheims and but once in my RSV in Timothy. Specifically it is derived from the King James Version. The Greek word arsenokoitai is the one usually translated by sodomite. Now if you wish to do a word study of this be my guest. However I sense you are merely using the word because of its shock value.

Freyr said...

The word "homosexual" as used in the catechism means "attracted to the same sex" since "homo" is from the Greek not Latin. It is an inclusive term which encompasses any form of sexual activity by any members of the same sex. No doubt this is why they used it in the catechism, sticklers for precision that they are.

Barona said...

...this is getting even sillier...

Lawrence and Susan Fox said...

Freyr, I must fast from curiosity because we haven't the faintest idea what word was used! And you can't tell us and still be civil, obviously.

Freyr said...

This is not silly. This is me making a very serious call for you to repent. "They must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity." You have instead resorted to name calling and language that is offensive. These issues can be discussed without resorting to such tactics.

Freyr said...

Lawrence and Susan Fox:
The catechism uses the word "homosexual", describing such acts as intrinsically disordered. It nevertheless counsels a compassionate approach to such people. Words such as "sodomite" not only characterize such people by the specific sexual acts they perform but have deep roots in English common law when such things were punishable by hanging. Thus it is both undignified and deeply threatening. If our purpose is to evangelize then this purpose is frustrated by the two extremes of name calling on the one hand and denying the sinful nature of such acts on the other. According to Persona Humana (8)

"In the pastoral field, these homosexuals must certainly be treated with understanding and sustained in the hope of overcoming their personal difficulties and their inability to fit into society. Their culpability will be judged with prudence. But no pastoral method can be employed which would give moral justification to these acts on the grounds that they would be consonant with the condition of such people."

Barona said...

Firstly, this post is about media distortion of the Pope's message.

Now to "sodomy". My intention was to use that strong term against those who seem to be very militant, aggressive, political homosexualists. Hence, my use of the term in identifying those in the gay bars, celebrating a delusional perspective towards marriage. I do not refer to homosexual persons suffering from same-sex attraction - which is a great cross - as such. I consider them, even those militants, as brothers. I hope and pray for their conversion, as I hope and pray for my own, and yours. Each and every day is a moment for conversion...

My further motivation in so strongly identifying these political militant homosexualists as sodomites, was that I am deeply grieved when I discover that our young people are being seduced and led astray by such people. It is a very disconcerting thing that a significantly idsporportionate number of young people who succumb into the homosexual lifestyle are suffering from mental health issues: depression, bi-poplar, personality disorders and so on. These young people need, help, they need community, they need love, they need family, and - if they are Catholic - help from the Catholic community. I am not seeing this.

Perhaps this exchange could be a motivation for us to consider a possible positive approach to the problem of homosexualism and its promotion etc. in the secular media; the silence in the mainstream Church... I am not aware what programmes the Archdiocese of Toronto offers to young people suffering from same sex attraction. Unfortunately, we live in an eroticized society which has completely relativized morality; except to domatize this relativism.



Lawrence and Susan Fox said...

Bishop Paprocki of Springfield, Ill, did the best he could to stop this same sex marriage bill. You can find his letter here: http://www.dio.org/blog/item/326-bishop-paprockis-letter-on-same-sex-marriage.html#text-of-letter

Given this letter, I think that the Catholic lawmakers were deliberately obtuse regarding Catholic teaching on same sex marriage. That is, they knew better, but ignored their bishops, and used the Pope's remarks as an excuse. God bless you. Susan Fox